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Offtopic: No acabo de entender la expresión del gato ¿viene de una costumbre? ¿tiene alguna lógica? :unsure:

Bueno, se refiere al aspecto de auto-tortura que tiene el machacarse a uno mismo con previsiones pesimistas. Ahora haz un esfuerzo de imaginación y trata de evocar la imagen con un gato vivo :P

 

Supongo que viene de por ahí, es una expresión que usan hace años en la empresa en la que trabaja :D :D

 

Viene de un chiste, de hecho ;-) No lo cuento aquí, sería demasiado off topic :P

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Un fallo de seguridad en la conexión Thunderbolt permitiria sobreescribir el Firmware de los Mac's: Security researcher rewrites Mac firmware over Thunderbolt, says most Intel Thunderbolt Macs vulnerable

 

 

A security researcher speaking at the Chaos Computer Congress in Hamburg demonstrated a hack that rewrites an Intel Mac’s firmware using a Thunderbolt device with attack code in an option ROM. Known as Thunderstrike, the proof of concept presented by Trammel Hudson infects the Apple Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) in a way he claims cannot be detected, nor removed by reinstalling OS X.

 

Since the boot ROM is independent of the operating system, reinstallation of OS X will not remove it. Nor does it depend on anything stored on the disk, so replacing the harddrive has no effect. A hardware in-system-programming device is the only way to restore the stock firmware.

 

Apple has already implemented an intended fix in the latest Mac mini and iMac with Retina display, which Hudson says will soon be available for other Macs, but appears at this stage to provide only partial protection… 

 

Once installed, the firmware cannot be removed since it replaces Apple’s public RSA key, which means that further firmware updates will be denied unless signed by the attacker’s private key. The hacked firmware can also replicate by copying itself to option ROMs in other Thunderbolt devices connected to the compromised Mac during a restart. Those devices remain functional, making it impossible to know that they have been modified.

 

The good news is that the attack method requires physical access to your Mac, and Hudson is not aware of any Mac firmware bootkits in the wild. He notes that there is no way to be sure, however.

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Disco duro de LaCie con RAID 0 o 1: LaCie Rugged RAID

 

Thunderbolt™ y USB 3.0 para alcanzar velocidades de hasta 240 MB/s

Alimentación por bus a través de Thunderbolt para flujos de trabajo móviles

Flexibilidad de RAID de hardware 0/1 para conseguir velocidad o seguridad

Resistencia a los golpes, al polvo y al agua para su uso en cualquier parte

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Todo colgando del nuevo Thunderbolt 3 y venga adaptadores....

Seguro que presentan nuevos MacPros en breve con el nuevo puerto. (descatalogarán los actuales y los liquidarán a 1999 sur :P :P :P :D :D )

 

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/06/thunderbolt-3-embraces-usb-type-c-connector-doubles-bandwidth-to-40gbps/

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El problema es que no los liquidarán a ese precio... Ni a los recuperados les rebajan tanto

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Lo curioso es como van a diferenciar los cables que sean solo USB-C de los que sean Thunderbolt con este conector: un dibujo en el conector :D

 

El Macbook acaba de envejecer un año de golpe

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Los nuevos procesadores Intel Skylake permitirán Thunderbolt 3, el pdf de Intel

 

Entre las novedades está la inclusión de varios protocolos: además de Thunderbolt, DisplayPort y PCI-Express también USB 3.1

 

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Lo que permitirá, siendo USB 3.1 compatible con versiones anteriores, conectar todo a Thunderbolt 3... con adaptadores USB-C claro :rolleyes: :D :ph34r:

Ahora si se puede parafrasear a JRR Tolkien:

 

Un conector para gobernarlos a todos. Un contector para encontrarlos,

un conector para atraerlos a todos y atarlos en las tinieblas.

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Comparativa del portátil Razer Blade Stealth con la caja de expansión para gráficas Razer Core con un Mac Pro 2010, ambos con una Nvidia GeForce GTX 980: Razer Core GPU Expander To Razer Blade Stealth laptop via Thunderbolt 3

 

 

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Aunque la cajita vale 499,99$ en USA... casi lo mismo que una gráfica como la GTX 980... y bastante más que la GTX 1070 que será más potente pero más barata

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Pues mira, es interesante... Estaba buscando un dock para el XPS15 (que tiene TB3), y pillando esto lo tengo (añade una salida TB3 USB-C, Gigabit Ethernet y 4 puertos USB 3), y además puedo meterle una gráfica cañón. Genial. Habrá que esperar a que salga por aquí. cool.gif

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Pues mira, es interesante... Estaba buscando un dock para el XPS15 (que tiene TB3), y pillando esto lo tengo (añade una salida TB3 USB-C, Gigabit Ethernet y 4 puertos USB 3), y además puedo meterle una gráfica cañón. Genial. Habrá que esperar a que salga por aquí. cool.gif

Te hará falta, la GeForce GTX 960M va a estar pronto desactualizada... y viendo las nuevas gráficas no tardará mucho en estar obsoleta

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Bueno, tampoco es que juegue mucho, pero saber al menos que tienes esa posibilidad te da mucha tranquilidad. Y con el más que seguro movimiento de Apple a ese tipo de conexión (Thunderbolt 3 mediante USB-C) veremos salir cajitas de estas como setas.

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Ahí por ahí un LaCie... LaCie Bolt3

 

 

Velocidad sin precedentes para creatividad ilimitada.

  • Velocidades de hasta 2.800 MB/s* para la edición de video en 6K
  • Doble puerto Thunderbolt 3 para conectar varios dispositivos en cadena
  • Suministre corriente a su computadora portátil mientras utiliza la unidad**
  • Diseño industrial fiable para profesionales de video

 

*Lecturas de hasta 2.800 MB/s

Escrituras de 1300 MB/s

 

Dos SSD NVMe M.2 en RAID 0, 2TB: 2349€

 

Cualquier día alguien se inventa la marca de garantía "para edición de video" y la gente encantada de soltar más dinero solo por eso :lol:

 

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Bueno, tampoco es que juegue mucho, pero saber al menos que tienes esa posibilidad te da mucha tranquilidad. Y con el más que seguro movimiento de Apple a ese tipo de conexión (Thunderbolt 3 mediante USB-C) veremos salir cajitas de estas como setas.

 

¡Sigo esperando! laugh.gif

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Este conector no ha bajado al populacho, lo que ha impedido que se popularice. El precio a nivel 'Pro' de cualquier cajita lo aleja del mercado 'doméstico'.

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Hay bastantes fabricantes de ordenadores que han empezado a usar Thunderbolt con el conector USB-C, el problema está en los periféricos que no acaban de llegar, o tienen la limitación de ser HDD como el LaCie Rugged Thunderbolt USB-C o el LaCie d2 THUNDERBOLT 3 quedándose en 130MB/s y 240MB/s

 

Probablemente "despeguen" cuando los SSD's tengan un precio que sea más competitivo

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De hecho, mi idea a corto plazo es "ampliar" la capacidad de almacenamiento de mi MBP mediante un SSD M.2 en una carcasa externa. La única decente que he encontrado es esta:

 

https://www.amazon.e...e?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Se supone que es compatible con el protocolo USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 (o sea, 10 GBps). De momento solo he podido probarlo con un M.2 mierder y el resultado no ha sido muy allá. Pero en breve creo que me lanzaré a por un Samsung 960 (no sé si EVO o PRO) y ya veremos. Si la cosa va bien, puede ser una buena solución, por ejemplo para instalar en el la partición BootCamp, que es mi intención.

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Intel integrará Thunderbolt en sus procesadores y liberará el protocolo para facilitar su adopción: Envision a World with Thunderbolt 3 Everywhere

 

 

Intel Announces Plans to Integrate Thunderbolt 3 into Future Intel CPUs and to Release the Thunderbolt Protocol Specification to the Industry

 

Intel has a long history of leading the industry in I/O innovation. In the late 1990s, Intel developed USB, which made it easier and faster to connect external devices to computers, consolidating a multitude of existing connectors. Intel continues its I/O innovation leadership with Thunderbolt™ 3, one of the most significant cable I/O updates since the advent of USB.

 

Intel’s vision for Thunderbolt was not just to make a faster computer port, but a simpler and more versatile port available to everyone. We envision a future where high-performance single-cable docks, stunning photos and 4K video, lifelike VR, and faster-than-ever storage are commonplace. A world where one USB-C connector does it all – today, and for many years to come. With this vision in mind, Intel is announcing that it plans to drive large-scale mainstream adoption of Thunderbolt by integrating Thunderbolt 3 into future Intel CPUs and by releasing the Thunderbolt protocol specification to the industry next year.

 

With Thunderbolt 3 integrated into the CPU, computer makers can build thinner and lighter systems with only Thunderbolt 3 ports. For the first time, all the ports on a computer can be the same – any port can charge the system and connect to Thunderbolt devices, every display and billions of USB devices. Designs based on Intel’s integrated Thunderbolt 3 solution require less board space and reduce power by removing the discrete component needed for existing systems with Thunderbolt 3.

 

In addition to Intel’s Thunderbolt silicon, next year Intel plans to make the Thunderbolt protocol specification available to the industry under a nonexclusive, royalty-free license. Releasing the Thunderbolt protocol specification in this manner is expected to greatly increase Thunderbolt adoption by encouraging third-party chip makers to build Thunderbolt-compatible chips. We expect industry chip development to accelerate a wide range of new devices and user experiences.

 

“Apple and Intel have collaborated on Thunderbolt from the beginning, and as the industry leader in its adoption, we applaud Intel’s efforts to integrate Thunderbolt technology into its CPUs and open it up to the rest of the industry,” said Dan Riccio, Apple’s senior vice president of Hardware Engineering.

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Zotac ha presentado en el Computex 2017 un par de cajas para tarjetas gráficas con Thunderbolt 3 y conector USB-C: Zotac unveils two Thunderbolt 3 enclosures to attach external GPUs to Apple's MacBooks

 

 

The Thunderbolt 3 External Graphics Dock is an enclosure meant to house graphics cards, with Zotac advising it is compatible with cards up to the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti. According to Tom's Hardware, the device supports cards up to 9 inches in length, restricting its usage to shorter graphics cards.

 

In order to accommodate the power needs of a graphics card, the enclosure includes its own 400-Watt internal power supply, which is also capable of charging a connected notebook. So far, Zotac has not advised of how much power it could deliver to a connected system.

 

Like other GPU enclosures, it connects via Thunderbolt 3 over USB Type-C to a notebook or a desktop, providing transfer speeds of up to 40Gb/s, and potentially allowing a notebook to take advantage of the graphics card for gaming, video editing, and other specialized needs. The unit also offers extra connectivity options, with four USB 3.0 ports, and a Quick Charge 3.0 port.

 

 

The second device, the Thunderbolt 3 External Box, performs a similar function to the graphics dock, but it is generally meant for other types of PCI-e hardware. Tech Power Up reports the enclosure includes a smaller 120-Watt power supply without any additional PCIe power connectors, meaning it will work with graphics cards that can function adequately that just draw power from the PCI-Express 3.0x16 slot.

 

Rather than for a graphics card, the Thunderbolt 3 External Box is intended for other hardware that uses the PCI-e slot, such as PCI-e solid state drives or multiple-port network cards. Just as with the graphics dock, the enclosure also has four USB 3.0 ports, with an extra 32Gb/s M.2 NVMe slot internally.

 

Zotac has yet to confirm how much the Thunderbolt 3 External Graphics Dock and Thunderbolt 3 External Box will cost, nor when the two enclosures will start shipping.

 

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Es doblemente interesante ya que Zotac es también fabricante de tarjetas gráficas

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